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  3. Great event! Thank you James McGraw and all your helpers for making it happen! Thanks Bobby Carter for the live stream!!

    The results were my only issue with this event.

    Expert top spots were all out of order.

    Pro should have been Dez or Dom in 1st or 2nd. Dub was right there, but I had him third.

    Flatland judging needs new consistent rules if it’s ever going to work correctly. No disrespect to Dub, he’s amazing! I just felt like both Dom and Dez had more stuff going on and they executed it better overall. You could hear the air get sucked out of the room…seemed like everyone was stunned at the point where Dub beat Dom.

    And then almost the same again when Dub beat Dez (except Dub was super happy!) Difficulty is being awarded to heavily over everything it seems. It’s definitely important, but it should be factored in with everything else (originality, variety (front & back wheel tricks), number of tricks in the run, overall style, and consistency). All of these should have equal weighting. I’m an experienced flatland judge and rider with over 30 years of riding and 20+ judging flatland events across the last three decades. I was riding pro in the late 80’s and judging events before many of the current judges were accomplished riders. Making the statements so you know I have the experience to make this position.

    I have much respect for the judges at this event, but must respectfully disagree with the outcomes. A well rounded rider who pulls his stuff, with lots of variety, a good number of moves, consistently and has enough difficulty should be awarded the top spot at any flatland event.

    I saw the same pattern at VooDoo Jam this year. Viki Gomez should have won that event. It was close though with Uchie. Just felt like Viki’s run met more of the overall criteria. Uchie had the harder moves, but his consistency was not as good, nor was the variety. It was a draw on originality. Viki had more tricks in his run.

    Anyway, we need to do a better job on judging consistency if the sport is going to continue to progress and have fair consistent outcomes. That’s the point I am trying to make here.

    Congratulations to everyone for their performances and placings! Regardless of results, everyone seemed to ride super well in their given classes and it was another good time full of good memories for all I’m sure!

    • Good points Jason that I don’t disagree with, but there were three judges! Not everyone has same opinion, in sure james learnt a lot of lessons in this event. I don’t know any event where there isn’t controversy, would be impossible

  4. Completely floored on expert results myself ! Its clearly a popularity contest, and that ruins it for a lot of riders I know of ! Dez 1st in pro, dom 2nd dub 3rd thats what I had as well

  5. Actually thought it was pretty good, Omari, Austin and Joe rode really well in prelims. Bryan and Todd messed up a bit, and shouldn’t those guys be in Vet class now, Expert class every year seems lil’ odd. Just saying….

  6. Joe, you were where you should have been and congratulations to you buddy!! It was the rest that left me a bit puzzled in expert. No disrespect to Omari or Austin, they are both super talented riders.

    However, when you consider the criteria I noted in my longer post above, Bryan and Todd would have been top three. Again you have to weigh in the number of tricks, variety, consistency, originality, and difficulty. If you go back and look at the runs keeping these things top of mind, you should see my point.

  7. Not going to say anything about placings, but wanted to clarify from statement above that it was best run counts and I only touched once in my first run

  8. Yeah, I’m still wondering what happened with Pete Brandt vs. Jason Plourde, and Dane vs. Tyler runs?! Tyler touched many times and he didn’t seem to pull many things, while Dane had a very nice run. Pete Brandt obviously killed it in every possible way. I’m little shocked but it’s just me. It was still a good contest to watch.

  9. Bo, it was not just you. I was right there with you on those battles as well. I just did not bother to mention them previously. I agree with you, Dane and Pete should have progressed much further than they did. These two were the other interesting results that left me stunned and wondering what the judges were thinking!

  10. Reward riders for pushing the level in contest with a balance of consistency is a difficult thing to judge.
    It’s a balance. I would rather riders go for it then play it safe for consistency points. And as too variety well that can be tuff as well. Variety doesn’t just mean back and front wheel.

    It’s all a balance. I didn’t have the chance to watch the contest unfortunately but im sure James learned a lot.
    I’m just wondering why York and Alexis rode in the contest when I thought they were judging.

  11. Scott, I see the point you are making, but I have to respectfully disagree a little. If you are going to “bring it” you should be able to “pull it” at the pro level. Let a “best trick” run be for bringing new cutting edge stuff to an event and have that evaluated separately. You did that at VooDoo Jam this year and it worked well.

    I don’t know how or when it started happening, but flatland competitions have been slowly evolving into “who pulled the hardest move” event for standard competitive runs and it should never be that way.

    Flatland (to me and I would argue most out there) has always been a combination of the elements I outlined in my prior posts above. All the elements are equally important. A competitive run needs to have solid difficulty, style, consistency, and originality. The rider who has the right balance of these should do well. A rider who comes out and has super hard tricks, but is lacking in the other areas should never prevail over one that does. Usually super hard tricks tend to coincide with some trouble with consistency.

    It’s not that hard to judge and true professionals do this. True professionals know how to ride contests. And typically, these individuals do well overall.

    I competed professionally back in the late 80’s and very early 90’s. I had some hard stuff that I had not mastered yet and those tricks never made it into my competitive runs until I had them wired and could pull them most of the time. If my runs lacked any of the elements I’ve noted here in this thread, I did not place that well regardless of what I pulled / did not pull in the run. We’ve got to look at the overall complete package of a run and not just the “big trick” highlights. At the pro level, consistency matters. This notion that it should not matter as much just because the level of riding is so high is just off and needs to change.

    I know flatland is unique when comparing to other sports, but in most other sports you bring it, nail it and do well. If you don’t, then you don’t do quite so well.

    Just keep seeing guys put out solid balanced performances with all the elements noted and they keep getting snubbed for the guys who come out and do a small number of harder tricks (falling off the bike at times, while the other guy barely makes a mistake if any). We need to award the balanced performance for standard competitive runs and award a best trick for the crazy hard stuff where if it takes four or five times to pull it, that’s fine – if pulled and it was the best, then that performance wins.

    Anyway, just my added 2 cents on the topic. Hopefully we will see this improve at events moving forward if we can establish a solid standard criteria for judging and have it adopted and adhered to at the majority of events.

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